posted ago by HandofBane [M] ago by HandofBane +83 / -4

So there's some recent major reddit drama at the admin level involving a recently hired admin turning out to have hired their now-convicted pedo father post-arrest during a brief journey into Britbong politics. This has completely exploded over the last couple days after posts on /r/ukpolitics were force-removed, a moderator was suspended (then later reinstated) for linking to an article from the Spectator, and there have been horrifically broad automod rules implemented which were nuking any links to that and more articles, alongside accusations made regarding this admin by name (username and IRL name).

Now, we aren't getting into the weeds on the accusations, but the overwhelming admin level response to them, including mass comment hard nukes (they show up for moderators as [removed] and cannot be reapproved at all), mass user suspensions, as well as the hard block on links to actual news sites (IIRC the Spectator, Independent, and a couple others were included) is something we cannot remotely condone. There's such a thing as a proportional response, and this from the admins is not it.

To add to the mess, we recently felt it necessary to implement a broad "no transgender discussion of any kind" policy on KiA (Reddit, not here) to head off the rather insane Anti-Evil removals and warnings/suspensions issued, including a warning issued to me personally for using the term "chick-with-a-dick" in reference to Polly from HuniePop2 as "promoting hate". When I approached the admins to get clarification on their policy, including a request for a full list of what they consider to be "trans-related slurs", I was given the run around with half-scripted answers before I asked to be escalated to a senior community team member. My request was never escalated, and it now turns out that the admin who gave me the run around was the admin at the center of all this drama. That makes the admin decision a total conflict of interest regarding actual sitewide policy enforcement.

All this put together - the bans, hard comment removals, link blocks, and the direct policy interactions with this admin - have caused us to make the decision to speak up the best way we can to make reddit take notice, by going private alongside hundreds of other subs for at least a day (we will see if it goes longer or not). We just have one benefit that most other subs do not in that we can link to a post here to more clearly explain why we are doing this, instead of just relying on a link to another post on reddit by someone who is not completely representative of our position.

A few of us will be around on and off today to maybe answer some questions, though this is almost fully in the laps of the admins to decide if they are going to continue fucking up their enforcement policies, counter to how things have been run in their own rules regarding public figures for years. Our own Rules 2 and 5 regarding personal info of people were built on the original interpretation of those sitewide rules with admin help. Going completely counter to that makes it impossible for anyone to enforce rules evenly, and the admins need to pull their collective heads out of their asses to understand that.

EDIT: So the admins sacrificed the employee on the altar to appease the masses, but failed to actually address any of the real issues this mess created around sitewide rules, automated moderation, etc. We are going to stay aimed at a target of roughly 24hours of staying private, in hopes that something gets addressed by a redname on that side of things. So figure somewhere in the 5am US Eastern timeframe, give or take, then the sub should be public again.

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CnnWillBlackmailYou -10 points ago +2 / -12

If you continue keeping ANY channels operating on Reddit, then you condone pedophilia yourself by proxy.

You now know in full living color what that platform's position on raping children is. Even if they boot the admin because they got caught this time, that doesn't change their position one bit.

If you reopen KiA on Reddit at ANY POINT, then you are actively supporting a pro pedophile stance.

You're already cowing to them by implementing YOUR "no tranny talk" rule. How much more are you willing to suckle?

Get off of Reddit. Period.

AntonioOfVenice 6 points ago +8 / -2

Sit down. We don't need moderators coercing their users. And we sure as hell don't need to flush down 125k subscribers down the drain.

CnnWillBlackmailYou -10 points ago +2 / -12

YOU sit the fuck down, you pedophile supporter.

HandofBane [M] [S] 6 points ago +8 / -2

And you're done. Rule 1, GTFO. This ban is permanent, you will not be missed.

HandofBane [S] 4 points ago +7 / -3

How about you actually read what we are going private for instead of trying to virtue signal and bully people into doing what you want? This is about admin overreach, insane vague and inconsistent rule enforcement, and what appears to be a new policy that runs absolutely counter to how sitewide enforcement around "personal info" has run for years.

Want to circlejerk over pedo shit? Do it somewhere else. That's all just a fucking sideshow to the actual issues here, and you are doing yourself and everyone else around you a disservice by hyperfocusing on the subject that makes people shut their brains off instead of the actual relevant issue here.

We aren't here to play another angle on cancel culture, though that's what other subs may be doing alongside all this. All that shit does is make you no fucking better than the SJW crowd we are up against already.

CnnWillBlackmailYou -11 points ago +2 / -13

Ohhhh, gotcha. So you're butthurt that they were mean to you. You don't actually CARE that the platform as a whole is run BY pedophiles, FOR pedophiles.

So that makes you a pedophile apologist.