Sorry if this has been asked before, but now that we are on the .win network, is there a reason these two are still separate things?
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Okay cool - that sounds reasonable.
I think it's good to have both, and hopefully the mods can put down the pitchforks now that reddit threatening to ban people over false flag user bullshit is gone.
I think there is merit to the approach of the KIA mods, though I haven't always agreed with their exact actions. I think there is merit to the approach of the KIA2 mods, though I haven't always agreed with their exact actions. Hopefully both can agree it's better that both exist.
I made an "olive branch" post to KiA2 on reddit, which went about as well as I expected because people want to eat sleep and breathe outrage rather than see what I was actually saying. We are not banning anyone from there preemptively, including people who had been banned on KiA reddit previously. Everyone gets amnesty, they just have to not be dicks about it when they come here. Funnily enough there are at least two people in this very thread who had been banned (temp or perma) from KiA that are being chill right now.
We have banned exactly one KiA2 user so far, who went full retard in his first comment here, making a "Hitler did nothing wrong" comment. I don't care where anyone is from, that kind of shit does not fly here, and would probably have been removed and the user banned on KiA2 reddit, too.
Some people can't suppress their /pol/ power level.
There were no demands for apologies, no "you must bow down" or any of that kind of shit. Just my pointing out that we were not importing bans over, and that meant for everyone, including Antonio, who has gone out of his way at every opportunity to play up his victimhood over his being banned from KiA reddit. There were certainly demands that I bow down, apologize and grovel from folks there. I will do no such thing, because I expect no such thing from anyone who chooses to take advantage of not being banned from here.
I belong to both communities on Reddit, and both communities on .win. Your alleged "olive branch" was full of snark. You were probablly thinking of the KiA2 members you banned from KiA1 when you posted it, but most members of KiA2 are there because of a non-inflamatory preference for their moderation style (i.e. a broader view of relevant topics) and have never been banned from KiA1. Telling those users they have "a second chance" is condescending.
Which is entirely your right to do so under KiA2 rules.
See, that's the problem with trying to read intent in something. You will almost always get it wrong. There was no snark in that, but I sure as fuck was tired when I wrote it, as I had just dealt with nearly 12 hours straight of getting this site up and running, dealing with the fallout of the admin sitewide decision, making sure people who had to do their parts to get this site functional had done their parts, all while getting a ton of PMs/DMs from folks worried about retroactive enforcement by the admins in regards to the rule change.
No, that is certainly a part of the community there, but you cannot say "most" when most of the population there, especially the increased active users, are folks who came in well after the split and have had little or no participation on KiA itself.
I think some people like to test the limits of free speech when they get to more open platforms. That being said I don't think TD would want something edgelording in that particular fashion on the platform with an election coming up. Any reporter seeing it would not be interesting in the nuances of separate communities
It was because you were saying two things. On one hand your words looked like compromise, but the intent was given away by how the sub itself was run.
Where did the name come from anyway?
The KotakuInAction name? Originally, when everything kicked off shortly before Gamergate started, there was a wide spread of people just finding out about the ZoePost thing which pointed out that Nathan Grayson of Kotaku had written several positive pieces (in some cases wedging it into pieces on other things) about Zoe Quinn in an effort to get on her good side and into her pants. This was a gross breach of journalistic ethics, which put Kotaku as one of the key "targets" for getting ethical reforms in place. One of the first places that didn't immediately kill all posts/comments about the issue was TumblrInAction on reddit - they decided we were overrunning them, and several mods decided to spin off to form KotakuInAction to get folks in a more focused environment. Everything kind of spiraled out from there.