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Difference between KotakuInAction.win and KotakuInAction2.win?

posted 4 years ago by endersshadow 4 years ago by endersshadow +32 / -0

Sorry if this has been asked before, but now that we are on the .win network, is there a reason these two are still separate things?

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– wharris2001 4 points 4 years ago +7 / -3

I belong to both communities on Reddit, and both communities on .win. Your alleged "olive branch" was full of snark. You were probablly thinking of the KiA2 members you banned from KiA1 when you posted it, but most members of KiA2 are there because of a non-inflamatory preference for their moderation style (i.e. a broader view of relevant topics) and have never been banned from KiA1. Telling those users they have "a second chance" is condescending.

Which is entirely your right to do so under KiA2 rules.

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– HandofBane 1 point 4 years ago +4 / -3

See, that's the problem with trying to read intent in something. You will almost always get it wrong. There was no snark in that, but I sure as fuck was tired when I wrote it, as I had just dealt with nearly 12 hours straight of getting this site up and running, dealing with the fallout of the admin sitewide decision, making sure people who had to do their parts to get this site functional had done their parts, all while getting a ton of PMs/DMs from folks worried about retroactive enforcement by the admins in regards to the rule change.

but most members of KiA2 are there because of a non-inflamatory preference for their moderation style

No, that is certainly a part of the community there, but you cannot say "most" when most of the population there, especially the increased active users, are folks who came in well after the split and have had little or no participation on KiA itself.

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– wharris2001 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Back on Reddit one of the available flairs indicates that the owner was part of the moderation wars/vote/discussion that led to KiA2's activation. It is one of the more popular ones.

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– HandofBane -1 points 4 years ago +2 / -3

Gotta maintain that tribalism attitude.

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– wharris2001 1 point 4 years ago +3 / -2

If by "tribalism", you mean "Proof that they were part of the original community" then you are correct.

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