posted ago by FuckityWuckity ago by FuckityWuckity +15 / -1

We've all had our fair share of disappointments these last few years. A popular game series has an anticipated sequel, and it's impact is damaged by unwarranted nannying from the game itself, or its vocal staff on Twitter. Which game series did you like, that had a poor sequel?

One of mine is: The World Ends with You: Neo. Apparently it's dub is aggressively political? For my own health, I'm not reading that.

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4ganger 3 points ago +7 / -4


LibertyPrimeWasRight 10 points ago +10 / -0

Did Fallout get political, or just incompetent? I've heard the complaints about bland, no-choice writing in FO4m and of course I know about the false advertising, technical, and pr dumpster fire that is Fallout 76. But I've not heard anything about politics in particular—beyond the usual speculation that woke hiring helps make these disasters happen, of course.

Im-Wide-Awake 6 points ago +6 / -0

Fallout's entire universe is a political commentary.

LibertyPrimeWasRight 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah, but last I knew, it wasn’t a heavy-handed leftist one. One of the main causes of the initial nuclear war was communist China launching an attack on the United States, wasn’t it?

For a guy with my username, I know relatively little about Fallout lore, but my impression hadn’t been that it was overtly SJW in its political commentary. Although, I imagine the synths and sentient ghouls offer opportunities if you were to push that way. Is that what they did? “Oh, these poor misjudged minorities, pay no attention to how most of them are monsters”?

Im-Wide-Awake 0 points ago +2 / -2

I would recommend reading more about the lore then if you're not familiar with it.

Overall, Fallout's message was one of anti-war and anti-capitalism, and it had been that way from the beginning. There had been a constant theme of juxtaposition between the 1950's pro-war propaganda and "consume product" advertising against the ravaging effects of war.

Yes, Liberty Prime had the message of "death is a preferable alternative to communism," although it was in essence a satire of the slogans of the cold-war era. Mind you, the game isn't an argument in favor of communism or leftist ideologies, but an illustration of a post-war society and the cruelty of leaders that are far removed from the greater civilization (The Master, John Eden, Dr. House, The Institute)

They're excellent games, some better than others, but the overall themes stay relatively consistent throughout.

SoleSurvivor 2 points ago +3 / -1

The latest Fallout is always an abomination and the one before is always the best in the series, according to fans.

I’m old enough to remember when Fallout “shouldn’t be an FPS”

Although 76 deserves the hatred. It’s fucking awful.

Politically, it’s always been pretty even handed.

Varden 2 points ago +3 / -1

If you dive into the extended lore around 1 and 2, many of the indian nations somehow survived nuclear armageddon without a vault or any preparation because... "theyre in touch with nature". Not only that but they become political and military powerhouses with functional societies run by communes. Its basically those antifa autonomous zones but actually functional. Mexico and south america are also mostly intact and functioning as the last bastions of human society, with much of mexico reverting to its tribal roots and becoming like the aztecs (but somehow still being functional).

All of this is of course without mentioning the fact that they portray the last of the US government, the Enclave, as purely bad guys because they want to wipe the nation clean of raiders and horribly irradiated monsters.

"But they dont respect the sovereignty of JunkProstituteDrugMurder town! And theyre just normal folks!"


The Brotherhood of Steel are the only vaguely american group that isnt portrayed as pure evil. Theyre merely portrayed as deeply incompetent and religious.

There is actually religion in fallout as well, its just that every single religious person is part of a cult that wants to brainwash everyone and is universally hated for it.

4ganger -2 points ago +3 / -5

what a fucking idiot you are

Im-Wide-Awake 4 points ago +6 / -2

Fallout was a political game from the very first version. It was always meant to be a commentary on capitalism, nationalism, and war

4ganger 0 points ago +4 / -4

oh REALLY????

Im-Wide-Awake 3 points ago +5 / -2

Yes. Did you play the early ones?

4ganger -1 points ago +4 / -5

do you know what sarcasm is?

4ganger -3 points ago +3 / -6

fucking idiot

cautiousaardvark 3 points ago +4 / -1

Fallout 3 = Interesting locations and story, monsters, aliens, mystery. (talking tree, VR suburb prison, AI leaders, Liberty Prime!, Great radio, haunted mines....... etc....)

Fallout 4 = Us Vs Them, a few ghouls. Buildings. Deathclaw. Buildings. More buildings. YAWWWWWWWN.

4ganger -4 points ago +2 / -6

fucking idiot