posted ago by FuckityWuckity ago by FuckityWuckity +8 / -0

We've all had our fair share of disappointments these last few years. A popular game series has an anticipated sequel, and it's impact is damaged by unwarranted nannying from the game itself, or its vocal staff on Twitter. Which game series did you like, that had a poor sequel?

One of mine is: The World Ends with You: Neo. Apparently it's dub is aggressively political? For my own health, I'm not reading that.

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MAGAnic316 8 points ago +8 / -0

It happened slowly with the assassins creed series. It started with killer Swordplay and deadly assassinations in awesome historical settings with a pretty compelling sci-fi modern day hook, and a shit ton of lore and mythology neatly encompassing all the best conspiracy theories ever discussed.

Then one day, for no reason at all, female pirates. Okay no big deal 🤷🏼‍♂️

Then one day a set of fraternal twins in Victorian England. She a shrewd, smart and deadly killer assassin; he a bumbling simpleton who never thinks things through (and is hinted at as being bisexual). Oh yes and a cross dressing woman pretending to be a man whom no one bats an eyelid at...in VICTORIAN ENGLAND.

Then Egyptians darker than the cast of captain Phillips and an inexplicable retcon of the entire series mythology so that it wasn’t Greyworm-lookalike who founded the brotherhood, but his fuckin wife. His wife founded the BROTHERHOOD 🤦🏼

Then it was a female Spartan mercenary (which were never a thing) screwing her way around Ancient Greece, and if you dared play as the male counterpart you’d be smugly reminded by reddit that the female is Muh cannon 🏳️‍🌈 ✊🏿

Then we all got pumped from 6 months of promo clips and trailers showing a bad ass Viking dude getting his face painted in blood and throat-blading Andre the giant’s big brother while an epic thunderstorm breaks out in the distance. The actual game arrives and nope, the main character is actually a chain smoking German chick who looks like Dolph Lungren mid-transition. She’s supposed to be the reincarnation of Odin, but somehow she’s the only Norse god who changed sex when the space magic machines mixed their DNA with Homo sapiens. Christians are bad, the game map is bloated to all hell, christians are bad, the modern day element is atrocious and christians are bad. And did I mention christians are bad?

The series is now about as close to the original assassins creed as it is to Mario kart

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Daucus9 8 points ago +8 / -0

I really liked the first Dishonored game but holy fuck did they drink the Sarkeesian Kool-Aid after that. They bring back the evil bitch from the DLC as the main villain with a flimsy excuse, they make Emily a main character even though it makes zero sense, they double down on trying to make Billie Lurk a thing even though she's boring as fuck, and they do their best to shove the male characters out of the picture or depower them.

And that's the important thing to realize: it's not just having female characters but they take female characters and trash established male characters in order to prop up the female characters. The games had great worldbuilding and then they completely squandered it because another thing about SJW games is how unimaginative and uncreative they are so they gotta recycle and paint over what already exists.

This all came out of Sarkeesian bitching that this game that takes place in basically steampunk Victorian England doesn't have Strong Whamen characters and also how dare they showcase that many young women were made vulnerable by being forced to prostitute themselves in order to afford anti-plague elixirs.

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KoofNoof 8 points ago +8 / -0

Apex Legends. Awesome game that was already dying due to greed and macrotransactions. Suddenly all of the characters start becoming gay, or non binary. Then they release the newest character, Seer. A gay black non binary dude that is designed to be OP. They probably did it on purpose to have the best character be black and gay.

The guy in charge of character balance and design ended up getting fired, and the game is a mess now

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PatriotPartyRising 4 points ago +4 / -0

Did you see the gamescom trailer for the Saints Row reboot? Has something like 40k downvotes. They woke-ified it 😂

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4ganger 2 points ago +4 / -2

fallout

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 7 points ago +7 / -0

Did Fallout get political, or just incompetent? I've heard the complaints about bland, no-choice writing in FO4m and of course I know about the false advertising, technical, and pr dumpster fire that is Fallout 76. But I've not heard anything about politics in particular—beyond the usual speculation that woke hiring helps make these disasters happen, of course.

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Im-Wide-Awake 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fallout's entire universe is a political commentary.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah, but last I knew, it wasn’t a heavy-handed leftist one. One of the main causes of the initial nuclear war was communist China launching an attack on the United States, wasn’t it?

For a guy with my username, I know relatively little about Fallout lore, but my impression hadn’t been that it was overtly SJW in its political commentary. Although, I imagine the synths and sentient ghouls offer opportunities if you were to push that way. Is that what they did? “Oh, these poor misjudged minorities, pay no attention to how most of them are monsters”?

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Im-Wide-Awake -1 points ago +1 / -2

I would recommend reading more about the lore then if you're not familiar with it.

Overall, Fallout's message was one of anti-war and anti-capitalism, and it had been that way from the beginning. There had been a constant theme of juxtaposition between the 1950's pro-war propaganda and "consume product" advertising against the ravaging effects of war.

Yes, Liberty Prime had the message of "death is a preferable alternative to communism," although it was in essence a satire of the slogans of the cold-war era. Mind you, the game isn't an argument in favor of communism or leftist ideologies, but an illustration of a post-war society and the cruelty of leaders that are far removed from the greater civilization (The Master, John Eden, Dr. House, The Institute)

They're excellent games, some better than others, but the overall themes stay relatively consistent throughout.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sure, I get that, but the question was what games had had their writing ruined by politics. To my knowledge, Fallout has yet to take the full plunge into heavy-handed modern leftism.

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Im-Wide-Awake 0 points ago +2 / -2

I would imagine anti-capitalism/anti-war to be pretty leftist. The games have also consistently embraced themes of diversity, showing that there are ghouls and synths that do offer support and good opportunity for you, the main character. There were synths who were literally programmed drones for the antagonist, but there were also synths who were escaping from that life and wanting to work for the good of the whole of humanity. There were ghouls who were mindless animals, and others, "sentient ghouls" which were also productive members of society only ostracized for their looks when under their skin (or lack thereof) they were kind people.

Have you played them?

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SoleSurvivor 2 points ago +2 / -0

The latest Fallout is always an abomination and the one before is always the best in the series, according to fans.

I’m old enough to remember when Fallout “shouldn’t be an FPS”

Although 76 deserves the hatred. It’s fucking awful.

Politically, it’s always been pretty even handed.

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Varden 2 points ago +3 / -1

If you dive into the extended lore around 1 and 2, many of the indian nations somehow survived nuclear armageddon without a vault or any preparation because... "theyre in touch with nature". Not only that but they become political and military powerhouses with functional societies run by communes. Its basically those antifa autonomous zones but actually functional. Mexico and south america are also mostly intact and functioning as the last bastions of human society, with much of mexico reverting to its tribal roots and becoming like the aztecs (but somehow still being functional).

All of this is of course without mentioning the fact that they portray the last of the US government, the Enclave, as purely bad guys because they want to wipe the nation clean of raiders and horribly irradiated monsters.

"But they dont respect the sovereignty of JunkProstituteDrugMurder town! And theyre just normal folks!"

Honestly.

The Brotherhood of Steel are the only vaguely american group that isnt portrayed as pure evil. Theyre merely portrayed as deeply incompetent and religious.

There is actually religion in fallout as well, its just that every single religious person is part of a cult that wants to brainwash everyone and is universally hated for it.

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4ganger -1 points ago +2 / -3

what a fucking idiot you are

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Im-Wide-Awake 3 points ago +4 / -1

Fallout was a political game from the very first version. It was always meant to be a commentary on capitalism, nationalism, and war

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4ganger 2 points ago +3 / -1

oh REALLY????

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Im-Wide-Awake 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yes. Did you play the early ones?

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4ganger 1 point ago +3 / -2

do you know what sarcasm is?

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Im-Wide-Awake 2 points ago +3 / -1

I do. But damn you’re salty all over this thread.

Ya gotta take a chill pill my dude. Good luck with the rest of your day!

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4ganger -1 points ago +2 / -3

fucking idiot

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cautiousaardvark 2 points ago +3 / -1

Fallout 3 = Interesting locations and story, monsters, aliens, mystery. (talking tree, VR suburb prison, AI leaders, Liberty Prime!, Great radio, haunted mines....... etc....)

Fallout 4 = Us Vs Them, a few ghouls. Buildings. Deathclaw. Buildings. More buildings. YAWWWWWWWN.

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4ganger 0 points ago +2 / -2

fucking idiot