Thanks man, i just wanted to show how much i appreciate the mod team for fighting to keep our freedom of speech. And i know that you guys will not let this devolve into the fucking hell that was Voat
I appreciate that dude. Cause we really, really, really need there to be a Reddit alternative. What you guys are doing is remarkable. And I just don't wanna see it happen again. One look at Gab or Voat and it's just a disaster. I want you guys to be a success. Reddit is turning into Disney World.
I'd say each community has it's own rules. KiA could be more restrictive than reddit if it wanted to. On TD they "deport" lol, people not following the rules. It also seems that if a troll comes on and starts making the environment awful they delete their comments. I think as long as people realize who their group is they can moderate it well. I wouldn't bother worrying about what other wins are doing, there's really no point since it is a free country.
Indeed. KiA has never been a racist/nazi sub, whatever the SJWs may have claimed.
There certainly should be room on the internet for a place where people should be free to to say whatever they want, within the realms of 1A, but moderation is needed sometimes, if only to keep on topic.
You've got it backwards. This is a return to form. Reddit was an aberration, not the norm.
If you go back to the 90's and early PHP, most communities were on forums. Hosted chat on yahoo was scorned as being too moderated. Then Digg became a thing, but while Digg hosted a lot of communities it was still very tech-centric. Then Digg decided to commit seppoku with the rollout of version 4, at which point everyone migrated to Reddit.
Reddit was what took the Digg model and really won over people from php based forums. It was inevitable that culture clash would occur and cause schism. Because Reddit would inevitably fall to the same forces that made Yahoo chat unappealing. The communities want freedoms that are at odds with the company's desire to have a moderated experience.
We have our own local IdPol rules, enforced not because we have to, but because it's what we believe in and what GamerGate was founded on. We are not going to go to the other extreme and allow stormfags to ruin this place.
You can see them designing these places with instructions not to be edgelords just for the sake of being edgelords. It’s supposed to have normal discourse. Would be nice to have some Wild West places though, in addition the normal communities
Ruqqus still isn't overrun. Bitchute still isn't overrun. Proton still isn't overrun.
You need a community that is defensive of the principles of freedom to stop the racist influx. The very defensive principles whose protection is the literal central, perhaps only, idea of our movement.
You need moderators who are active and willing to act against spammery and racism. The exact kind of moderators we have here.
Also, we should borrow Ruqqus's framework of allowing people to filter out certain words, and they just won't see any posts with those words/phrases. That way, us non-hateful people can still interact with eachother without ever seeing any hate. That basically removes any need for moderation too, since you can just block words and/or people that you know are spammers and/or anti-freedom, and you don't even have to deal with them. I do, however, doubt that moderation is going to stop, since it's what we're used to and there's no real reason to stop moderating, either.
P.S. Gab isn't full of hateful people? Haven't been on in a week but there wasn't really any hate on there, you're probably just looking at the wrong groups/people, some people there do truly love freedom, not just freedom for "muh white race"
Truthfully, i got Gab and Voat mixed up. I meant to say Voat. And you just reminded me about spam. 4chan is great, but they do have a spam problem. The occasional meme is hilarious, i love offtopic threads. But yeah, we can't lose focus.
Now I never heard of ruqqus before. I'll check that out.
I did use Gab for a while. There were more people being blatantly racist on there than I usually see on Twitter, but it wasn't a overwhelming majority.
A few more hobby sites could help.
It seems like we have more moderation than some of the other free speech cesspools, but I've never actually used Gab.
Rules, rules are what will help prevent that.
As we are working on the CSS they will be populating as soon as we can.
Thanks man, i just wanted to show how much i appreciate the mod team for fighting to keep our freedom of speech. And i know that you guys will not let this devolve into the fucking hell that was Voat
I'll burn this place to the ground before I let it go that way.
And it will be my pleasure to do so.
So if you see me with a stick and some marshmallows you know what's coming.
I appreciate that dude. Cause we really, really, really need there to be a Reddit alternative. What you guys are doing is remarkable. And I just don't wanna see it happen again. One look at Gab or Voat and it's just a disaster. I want you guys to be a success. Reddit is turning into Disney World.
Disney world but the only ride is It's A Small World and once you're on it you can't get off.
But from the mods we appreciate the support, thank you.
(and yeah, I had a voat account and watched what it turned into, fucking no thank you)
I'd say each community has it's own rules. KiA could be more restrictive than reddit if it wanted to. On TD they "deport" lol, people not following the rules. It also seems that if a troll comes on and starts making the environment awful they delete their comments. I think as long as people realize who their group is they can moderate it well. I wouldn't bother worrying about what other wins are doing, there's really no point since it is a free country.
Indeed. KiA has never been a racist/nazi sub, whatever the SJWs may have claimed.
There certainly should be room on the internet for a place where people should be free to to say whatever they want, within the realms of 1A, but moderation is needed sometimes, if only to keep on topic.
I agree.
But if I'm being painfully honest with those we stand against I doubt our room is ever going to be "free to say whatever someone wants".
Hence R1
Rules are what made reddit the cancer it is today, so ...
Transparent rules and fair and equal enforcement of them, on the other hand. And as few of them as possible of course.
At this point we are looking at something around 8.
You've got it backwards. This is a return to form. Reddit was an aberration, not the norm.
If you go back to the 90's and early PHP, most communities were on forums. Hosted chat on yahoo was scorned as being too moderated. Then Digg became a thing, but while Digg hosted a lot of communities it was still very tech-centric. Then Digg decided to commit seppoku with the rollout of version 4, at which point everyone migrated to Reddit.
Reddit was what took the Digg model and really won over people from php based forums. It was inevitable that culture clash would occur and cause schism. Because Reddit would inevitably fall to the same forces that made Yahoo chat unappealing. The communities want freedoms that are at odds with the company's desire to have a moderated experience.
Oh for sure. That's a better way to put it. "A return to form." So sad what happened to Digg too.
Well said.
You realize that the left is already racist, that everyone is racist, and that you're the only loser still trying to not be racist, you racist.
R1 warning " you racist"
Leave the insults out of your replies.
Wew lad, do you guys accept sarcasm asterisk around insults? Asking for a friend.
Do like we do on The Donald, and man those deport buttons!
The easiest way to do your part in taking out the trash is to just sort by new for a few minutes each visit and deport the junk.
We have our own local IdPol rules, enforced not because we have to, but because it's what we believe in and what GamerGate was founded on. We are not going to go to the other extreme and allow stormfags to ruin this place.
You're now the root of meme culture;)
You can see them designing these places with instructions not to be edgelords just for the sake of being edgelords. It’s supposed to have normal discourse. Would be nice to have some Wild West places though, in addition the normal communities
Ruqqus still isn't overrun. Bitchute still isn't overrun. Proton still isn't overrun.
You need a community that is defensive of the principles of freedom to stop the racist influx. The very defensive principles whose protection is the literal central, perhaps only, idea of our movement.
You need moderators who are active and willing to act against spammery and racism. The exact kind of moderators we have here.
Also, we should borrow Ruqqus's framework of allowing people to filter out certain words, and they just won't see any posts with those words/phrases. That way, us non-hateful people can still interact with eachother without ever seeing any hate. That basically removes any need for moderation too, since you can just block words and/or people that you know are spammers and/or anti-freedom, and you don't even have to deal with them. I do, however, doubt that moderation is going to stop, since it's what we're used to and there's no real reason to stop moderating, either.
P.S. Gab isn't full of hateful people? Haven't been on in a week but there wasn't really any hate on there, you're probably just looking at the wrong groups/people, some people there do truly love freedom, not just freedom for "muh white race"
Truthfully, i got Gab and Voat mixed up. I meant to say Voat. And you just reminded me about spam. 4chan is great, but they do have a spam problem. The occasional meme is hilarious, i love offtopic threads. But yeah, we can't lose focus.
Now I never heard of ruqqus before. I'll check that out.
I did use Gab for a while. There were more people being blatantly racist on there than I usually see on Twitter, but it wasn't a overwhelming majority.
A few more hobby sites could help. It seems like we have more moderation than some of the other free speech cesspools, but I've never actually used Gab.